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173.93.107.4

I found an edit of yours re this IP on my watchlist ... I blocked it and requested a global block on the IP, because of the relevant user's previous cross-wiki abuse. Graham87 06:14, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Great stuff, thanks. Mutt Lunker (talk) 13:17, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

They're back again already @Graham87:, as User:173.93.117.22, an IP they've used before. You couldn't swat this one too could you? Mutt Lunker (talk) 22:33, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

FYI I've blocked 173.93.96.0/19 for 6 months.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 00:02, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. Mutt Lunker (talk) 00:16, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Cool, I've requested a global block there too. Graham87 04:32, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Picts

Hey! How's it going?

Just letting you know I'm still working on the Picts article. Reverting all the changes I've made is not constructive. I realize it's a lot of edits but the article needs work. I'm trimming the content down to make it more concise, but I'm leaving everything sourced okay so the article is okay even while I edit. Just give me 24 hours to complete my edits then we can go and take out whatever is not necessary after discussing on the Talk Page.

Thanks :) LightProof1995 (talk) 12:24, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

One place is enough for this discussion but, suffice to say, that is not how things work here. Mutt Lunker (talk) 12:28, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Please, do not accuse other editors of vandalism, when their edits are clearly not. It's disruptive, it's a provocation that makes it that much more difficult to solve a content dispute and can lead to blocks. Salvio ^giuliano 16:54, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Can I clarify, are you referring to this? "uw-disruptive4" is what I'd have gone for if such a template was available, "uw-unsourced4" would also be accurate, so the template choice I made could have been better, granted. Disruptive though? Somewhat provocative notion itself. Mutt Lunker (talk) 17:17, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Or, you know, you could have left a handwritten warning, templates are fine for newcomers and vandals, but for more established users, talking is better. And yes, accusing other editors who vandalism is disruptive and should be avoided, because it's not civil (WP:ICA)... Salvio ^giuliano 17:45, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

I made a less-than-careful mischaracterisation of disruptive editing as having been vandalous. I've acknowledged that and refrained from digging.

To advance an interpretation of ATWV that to fail is actively disruptive seems less-than careful and an "accusation of impropriety". We're all busy, we all make good faith mistakes. Would we be better with both our spades relinquished? Mutt Lunker (talk) 18:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

FM / premier

Hey. Just to clarify my edit on this. I was confused by your edits and butchered my edit summary.

The source is not authoritative and does not say that the two are analogous. It's just one speaker in a debate arguing for 'premier', in an obvious political context. Scotland and Canadian provinces are also obviously not directly analogous, and the source doesn't mention South African or Australian examples. // Hippo43 (talk) 01:28, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

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LightProof1995 (talk) 02:59, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Please stop reverting my edits and take any accusations you have to an admin

I’m not sure what your problem with me is but I would like to assure you I have not been sockpuppeting whatsoever. I am a genuine user who has been making useful contributions. Therefore if you want to continue to make these false allegations and reverting all my edits I suggest you do so to an admin who could possibly investigate this matter for both of us. Let me know if you would like to discuss whatever problem you may have. BlaineCreek (talk) 20:12, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Surprise, surprise, the SPI was positive. They never learn, do they? BilCat (talk) 22:54, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

I never get bored of this game. 10mmsocket (talk) 22:55, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Perhaps they're a goldfish. Mutt Lunker (talk) 22:56, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

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Duke of Edinburgh

Hello, I don't know which quote you want to use to verify what has been said in the '2023 creation' section, so I provided some possible quotes from The Telegraph article.

"Another thing had also happened in the intervening period: the rise of the Scottish National Party. With the Union hanging in the balance, was it really the right decision to give the Edinburgh dukedom to someone descending fast down the royal ranking? Why not confer the title on the Princess Royal, a trusted royal trouper whose love of Scotland is well known?"

"It should not go unnoticed that this announcement came just weeks after Nicola Sturgeon, Scotland’s First Minister, announced her resignation. With the prospect of Scottish independence now looking less likely, there is far less risk in making the trusty Wessexes the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh for now, if not forever."

These quotes come from Camilla Tominey.

DDMS123 (talk) 17:57, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for providing this, though if you could post it at the talk page itself, that would provide material for further discussion in the appropriate place. It indicates to me that what the article says is somewhat of a misinterpretation of the source. Mutt Lunker (talk) 18:46, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I transferred the quotes to the actual talk page. DDMS123 (talk) 19:13, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Now worries. Great, thanks. Mutt Lunker (talk) 19:22, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Gaelic

Cheers for stepping in there. There's banter (I do it too) and then there's... that. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 20:06, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Aye, the only reason for not going for a straight revert was the chance that the incomprehensibility of the last sentence might have been obscuring a valid point. Slim chance, granted. Good point re RGW. Mutt Lunker (talk) 21:06, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Rudeness is not appreciated

As ever, Mutt, you have come across as rude and passive aggressive with your insults on the Scotland talk page and, for what it's worth, is unappreciated.

We may have disagreements on which image is best, but I do not appreciate your choice of words when using the term "idiosyncratic preferences" and would ask you to consider reflecting on this and refrain for using personal insults in the future.

Wikipedia is a community built on common understanding and respect for everyone, yes, we may not always get it right and agree, but try and show some respect as you are not the only one around here with a point of view. Under no circumstances should any user, you or anyone else, ever feel the need to use rudeness when users are trying to improve articles in good faith. I would kindly ask you to consider this and reflect on your choice of language and actions, as I am sure you are aware of Wikipedia's policies. Goodreg3 (talk) 23:20, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Reply. Mutt Lunker (talk) 23:39, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Badass, Gravure Idol, Salaryman and Host Club

Aren't those four words American terms that are not used in British English?

At least Host Clubs and Gravure Idols are completely unheard of in Europe. 2.44.107.155 (talk) 19:42, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

If this refers to a previous edit or engagement, you'll have to remind me with details but the latter three are Japanese. Mutt Lunker (talk) 21:54, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

It refers to a previous edit. 2.44.107.155 (talk) 19:09, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

But you won't be revealing which one because my answer above suffices? Mutt Lunker (talk) 21:57, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

The second to last edit in "american terms not used in british english" where I put "gravure idol". 2.44.107.155 (talk) 15:09, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

To which my response was that the "Term is Japanese"? Also, per my response above. The term is Japanese. Mutt Lunker (talk) 17:10, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Also Wiener, as in "penis" is a term that is an americanism not used in the UK. Wiktionary itself states "wiener" as in "penis" to be only used in the US and Canada

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wiener#:~:text=(Canada%2C%20US%2C%20colloquial),to%20partake%20in%20certain%20activities. 93.144.189.243 (talk) 19:56, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Response. Mutt Lunker (talk) 20:38, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Socks

Thanks for keeping an eye on the NOTBROKEN socks. I'm not sure whether they've become more prolific or you're finding new accounts that we'd overlooked, but either way it's a valuable contribution. Certes (talk) 09:38, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

On this topic, if you come across User:Kung Hibbe socks, feel free to ping me. I'm also familiar with their work and am willing to block the accounts. Canterbury Tail talk 06:32, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

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Citations

Matt, you're right: the Wikipedia:Convenience link takes you to a different page, but the citation itself says "pp. 349, 740" – two pages, which cannot realistically be provided simultaneously through a single URL. If you find that too confusing, perhaps we should remove the URL entirely. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:51, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

If you wish to support two entirely different matters with two different passages on two different pages, insert two different citations, as I have now done for you. It's particularly rich to say that "Someone must have looked at the wrong page" when you provided the link to it. Please take more care with your edits. Each time you have edited that page you have introduced numerous factual and formatting errors, necessitating a substantial cleanup. Mutt Lunker (talk) 20:27, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

I took enough care to provide the exact page numbers, and as a convenience – which is proving to be inconvenient – a link directly to the first of them. I feel like you did not take enough care to read the citation and notice that there were two page numbers given. WhatamIdoing (talk) 09:16, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

If you take enough care to read my post above, my very point is that I did notice that and it is not the way to go about citing clearly. Mutt Lunker (talk) 20:57, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

It has been a while...

Londonski (talk · contribs) - what do you think? I have almost missed him it's been so long! 10mmsocket (talk) 17:33, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Sportspeople from Valleyfield, Fife

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Notbroken

A recent edit to WP:Oversight aroused my suspicions. Is Kung Hibbe back? Both accounts' home wiki is Swedish. Interaction is fairly strong considering the new account's low edit count, but there are only a couple of Canada edits and nothing Scottish. What do you think? Certes (talk) 16:38, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Good spot; I'd say the connection is highly likely with the style of edits, type of topics covered, Swedish connection and creation within a few days of the blocking of their previous sock. Mutt Lunker (talk) 20:38, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the second opinion. Reported to SPI. Certes (talk) 21:12, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, certain now. This change is a signature one. Mutt Lunker (talk) 22:54, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

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About Scots Inglis

So, hypothetically if I re-add it, but instead of using Inglis use English so it's Scots English instead of Scots Inglis could it stay BigFoxGaming (talk) 00:15, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

28 Roseangle

Something I have been looking at in the last few months is 28 Roseangle (not to be confused with the murder house) which there is quite a bit online about the history due to the compulsory purchase etc. I have created a draft at User:Crouch, Swale/28 Roseangle which you could look at if you want. I'm not sure it would pass the notability guidelines as its only category C and without a name but there may be enough coverage. I just though you might be interested as you seem to be interested in the Fife area, thanks. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:09, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi there, looks like a quirky wee building but not sure anything leaps out to fulfil WP:NBUILD: "may be notable as a result of their historic, social, economic, or architectural importance, but they require significant in-depth coverage by reliable, third-party sources to establish notability". I've only skimmed the refs though. Anything therein that point to the criteria? Mutt Lunker (talk) 10:48, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

I would point out that WP:GEOFEAT suggests listed buildings are notable but given its only Category C without a name and a private building I'd argue that we shouldn't presume its notable, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/172 High Street, Elstow (2nd nomination). All the other coverage seems to be about the fact its a neglected listed building but I'm not sure if that would pass GNG. We do have List of listed buildings in Dundee/4 that mentions it already. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

I must be missing the mention of listed buildings at GEOFEAT, unless you are extrapolating to "architectural importance", per my quote above? Mutt Lunker (talk) 21:01, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

"Artificial geographical features that are officially assigned the status of cultural heritage or national heritage, or of any other protected status on a national level and for which verifiable information beyond simple statistics is available, are presumed to be notable.". The Category A, B and C listings are national heritage (as opposed to say a locally listed building) and the listing does seem to provide more information beyond simple statistics. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:13, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Ok. Mutt Lunker (talk) 20:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)